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    13.11.2014
    07:19:46
    Miguel
    At last the cracks in the eu and the euro are <a href="http://mcpdflgvfa.com">shiwong</a>. I find it interesting that the people the money actually belongs to ie: the tax payers in all the member countries are never consulted as to how it's used, the politicians just sit there writing checks as if it's their own personal ATM so why would Britain, who's been pretty well sucked dry by the eu, (and still no one can tell me what it is we gain from membership when we did very little trading with Europe before this big con came into being) why would we want the euro, of course I'm sure that our traitorous government can be bought for the usual pocket of gold.
     
    13.11.2014
    04:07:28
    Sanjay
    of the above.Sometimes I really weondr if this is not more about frustration than about finding a solution.1. In wanting to get out irrespective of the economic costs.I have never seen a proper answer on how the UK wants to keep its export going in the process of leaving the EU. Which should happen, for most at least, by Dave going to Brussels and 'middlefingering' Barroso (the idea is of course appealing but..). Several times it is mentioned that it likley will create for a couple of years a mountain of paperwork (and likely extra levies), but all we get is we import more from them than we export to them. Simply a completely useless answer to the original question.2. Is it about getting only an in/out referendum or is it to have arrangements in place for the decades to come that work. Again it looks like the former. Again it doesnot make clear why the split will not tank the UK economy. We hear that now less than 50% is EU trade, well the UK can simply not afford to lose that other 48% or even a part thereof.And that will be hold against you in an in/out referendum. And you know as well as I that if business start to advertise for an 'in', because they are rightly afraid of the consequences the majority will likely vote for an 'in'. They are simply afraid of their job. You simply donot make your case and give answers to the most important questions (like will it not tank the economy).3. The UK is part of Europe. May be not Europe as in EU, but in a geographical and economical sense it is. Whether you like it or not there will be (and remain) relations between the UK and the EU. And these will be necessary to keep the UKs standard of living at what it now is. You donot come up with any realistic ideas about that relation in the future. The next period will of course give rise to irritations but that should not be made worse than it is. Barroso and Co are dodgy and hardly democratic but they are no Hitler and Mussolini. Several democratic countries simply want to be part of it.4. Coming back to my point that it looks largely frustration. If you want an in/out referendum AND want that that to succeeed, for likely most of the voters you will have to come up with answers to the questions asked above. This way it is not going to work and you probably know that. The issue is simply to complicated to arrange properly by having Dave going tomorrow or so to Brussels and come back the same day as the PM of a truly free/liberated country. http://fwsnnzoq.com [url=http://zhqzqnd.com]zhqzqnd[/url] [link=http://utjtyswvoae.com]utjtyswvoae[/link]
     

       

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